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	<title>Comments on: Protest Against Fatwa On Tomboyism</title>
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		<title>By: Yuki Choe</title>
		<link>http://tiltedworld.org/2008/11/07/protest-against-tomboyism-fatwa-on-tomboyism/comment-page-1/#comment-760</link>
		<dc:creator>Yuki Choe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 14:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Norhisham Othman, are you saying mAn and woman or mEN and women? That means you encougare poligamy? And are those &quot;entrusted&quot; with the teachings of Islam human, or have they obtained some God-like status for them to judge based on personal bias what is haram and what is not (because some of the fatwas in the world are really different with various countries)? And please, I am confused. What do you mean by the queer &quot;lifestyle&quot;? Sleeping? The clothes you wear? The car you drive? Types of exercises? Because I am sure my lifestyle is hardly any different than yours.

By the way, somethings that is the &quot;clear set of rules as in the Koran and also the Hadith&quot; also includes killing infidels. What are infidels? You should know. So are you going to kill every non-Muslim now? Heck, it also teaches that the earth is flat. Do you believe it? Please do not pick and choose Quranic verses to satisfy your bias. As you said, religion teaches all to be good. What have we done to harm you? Simply by existing?

&quot;Adam and Eve created the generation of ALL MANKIND so that they can produce more offspring thus creating the continuance of the human race.&quot;

So tell me, how did Adam and Eve &quot;reproduce&quot;? Were they married? And how did their children &quot;reproduce&quot;? And what about some poor men out there that cannot make their wives pregnant? Or women who are born unable to give birth to children? Are they lesser in God&#039;s eye because they cannot reproduce?

You have no right to judge another human being. You however, have the right to question, as I did. And you also have the right to look at your own sins and not judge others. Who are you to assume when you are not born a queer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Norhisham Othman, are you saying mAn and woman or mEN and women? That means you encougare poligamy? And are those &#8220;entrusted&#8221; with the teachings of Islam human, or have they obtained some God-like status for them to judge based on personal bias what is haram and what is not (because some of the fatwas in the world are really different with various countries)? And please, I am confused. What do you mean by the queer &#8220;lifestyle&#8221;? Sleeping? The clothes you wear? The car you drive? Types of exercises? Because I am sure my lifestyle is hardly any different than yours.</p>
<p>By the way, somethings that is the &#8220;clear set of rules as in the Koran and also the Hadith&#8221; also includes killing infidels. What are infidels? You should know. So are you going to kill every non-Muslim now? Heck, it also teaches that the earth is flat. Do you believe it? Please do not pick and choose Quranic verses to satisfy your bias. As you said, religion teaches all to be good. What have we done to harm you? Simply by existing?</p>
<p>&#8220;Adam and Eve created the generation of ALL MANKIND so that they can produce more offspring thus creating the continuance of the human race.&#8221;</p>
<p>So tell me, how did Adam and Eve &#8220;reproduce&#8221;? Were they married? And how did their children &#8220;reproduce&#8221;? And what about some poor men out there that cannot make their wives pregnant? Or women who are born unable to give birth to children? Are they lesser in God&#8217;s eye because they cannot reproduce?</p>
<p>You have no right to judge another human being. You however, have the right to question, as I did. And you also have the right to look at your own sins and not judge others. Who are you to assume when you are not born a queer?</p>
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		<title>By: norhisham othman</title>
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		<dc:creator>norhisham othman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 04:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Islam has a a clear set of rules as in the Koran and also the Hadith.What is not to be condoned are all the major sins so for those who swear,drinks, smokes, indulge in vice and hedonistic lifestyle then they will be judged during Judgementg Day yet Allah will forgive (insyallah) for those who repent because it is never too late to change.Only God decides who goes to hell or heaven eternally thus as a Muslim,I can say that in Malaysia others IRREGARDLESS of their faith indulge in immoral activities vice versa. I have heard sneering comments from those who say that MANY Muslims in Malaysia do not pray, fast ecetera but it does not mean a large majority as they do not understand or practise Islam in general but only on name.Which also means others who are not Muslims can indulge? Adam and Eve created the generation of ALL MANKIND so that they can produce more offspring thus creating the continuance of the human race. All the main religion in this planet advocates a good way of life but not when there is that queer lifestyle as man and woman are created for each other.I apologise for this and also with regards to the fatwa as it is again to be decided by those who are entrusted with the teachings of Islam and not to discrimanate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Islam has a a clear set of rules as in the Koran and also the Hadith.What is not to be condoned are all the major sins so for those who swear,drinks, smokes, indulge in vice and hedonistic lifestyle then they will be judged during Judgementg Day yet Allah will forgive (insyallah) for those who repent because it is never too late to change.Only God decides who goes to hell or heaven eternally thus as a Muslim,I can say that in Malaysia others IRREGARDLESS of their faith indulge in immoral activities vice versa. I have heard sneering comments from those who say that MANY Muslims in Malaysia do not pray, fast ecetera but it does not mean a large majority as they do not understand or practise Islam in general but only on name.Which also means others who are not Muslims can indulge? Adam and Eve created the generation of ALL MANKIND so that they can produce more offspring thus creating the continuance of the human race. All the main religion in this planet advocates a good way of life but not when there is that queer lifestyle as man and woman are created for each other.I apologise for this and also with regards to the fatwa as it is again to be decided by those who are entrusted with the teachings of Islam and not to discrimanate.</p>
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		<title>By: Muzzy</title>
		<link>http://tiltedworld.org/2008/11/07/protest-against-tomboyism-fatwa-on-tomboyism/comment-page-1/#comment-633</link>
		<dc:creator>Muzzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nakedwriter, well argued n wellthought. As a faithful muslim, i believe it will b only God can reward belief or punish disbelief. There4, we human beings, while we r on this earth must have d humility NOT to play God wit each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nakedwriter, well argued n wellthought. As a faithful muslim, i believe it will b only God can reward belief or punish disbelief. There4, we human beings, while we r on this earth must have d humility NOT to play God wit each other.</p>
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		<title>By: nakedwriter</title>
		<link>http://tiltedworld.org/2008/11/07/protest-against-tomboyism-fatwa-on-tomboyism/comment-page-1/#comment-596</link>
		<dc:creator>nakedwriter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please don&#039;t misrepresent your religion. Islam doesn&#039;t give any one the right to judge who goes or doesn&#039;t go to hell. Only God makes that judgment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please don&#8217;t misrepresent your religion. Islam doesn&#8217;t give any one the right to judge who goes or doesn&#8217;t go to hell. Only God makes that judgment.</p>
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		<title>By: muslimat</title>
		<link>http://tiltedworld.org/2008/11/07/protest-against-tomboyism-fatwa-on-tomboyism/comment-page-1/#comment-595</link>
		<dc:creator>muslimat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To all non muslim, please take not that this matter is only for a muslim. If you are KAFIR, so this fatwa is do nothing harm to you. If you are Muslim and still against the fatwa, so yoau also can go to hell hereafter. Follow all your KAFIR comunity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all non muslim, please take not that this matter is only for a muslim. If you are KAFIR, so this fatwa is do nothing harm to you. If you are Muslim and still against the fatwa, so yoau also can go to hell hereafter. Follow all your KAFIR comunity.</p>
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		<title>By: muslimat</title>
		<link>http://tiltedworld.org/2008/11/07/protest-against-tomboyism-fatwa-on-tomboyism/comment-page-1/#comment-594</link>
		<dc:creator>muslimat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You all stupid non muslim do not understand our religious. In Islam Man also can not wearing like a woman. So stop critic our riligious. You all can go to hell hereafter. All of you is like a BASTARD when interfere other religious whithout any knowledge about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You all stupid non muslim do not understand our religious. In Islam Man also can not wearing like a woman. So stop critic our riligious. You all can go to hell hereafter. All of you is like a BASTARD when interfere other religious whithout any knowledge about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Muzzy</title>
		<link>http://tiltedworld.org/2008/11/07/protest-against-tomboyism-fatwa-on-tomboyism/comment-page-1/#comment-569</link>
		<dc:creator>Muzzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When doctors harm ppl; with their decisions, they can b sued for malpractice. So i guess Muslims should have d right to sue any religious leaders when their conclusions harm ppl.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When doctors harm ppl; with their decisions, they can b sued for malpractice. So i guess Muslims should have d right to sue any religious leaders when their conclusions harm ppl.</p>
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		<title>By: thilaga</title>
		<link>http://tiltedworld.org/2008/11/07/protest-against-tomboyism-fatwa-on-tomboyism/comment-page-1/#comment-556</link>
		<dc:creator>thilaga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 03:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think its about time that we stood up and said enough is enough! stop patriarchy and stop using the name of Islam to justify things and help you control the society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think its about time that we stood up and said enough is enough! stop patriarchy and stop using the name of Islam to justify things and help you control the society.</p>
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		<title>By: thilaga</title>
		<link>http://tiltedworld.org/2008/11/07/protest-against-tomboyism-fatwa-on-tomboyism/comment-page-1/#comment-555</link>
		<dc:creator>thilaga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 03:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>please re-sign the petition at http://www.petitiononline.com/fnbnkg/petition.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please re-sign the petition at <a href="http://www.petitiononline.com/fnbnkg/petition.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.petitiononline.com/fnbnkg/petition.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: nakedwriter</title>
		<link>http://tiltedworld.org/2008/11/07/protest-against-tomboyism-fatwa-on-tomboyism/comment-page-1/#comment-554</link>
		<dc:creator>nakedwriter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 03:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The issue of debate and protest over the fatwa isn&#039;t about non-muslims fearing that we can&#039;t do what we want to do. It&#039;s the issue of protecting certain sectors of society who are unfairly repressed without being understood enough. Just as much as you claim that there are reasons behind the fatwa, there are also reasons behind people&#039;s decision to dress up in certain ways. Why should one truth be greater than the other?

A rereading of the Quran and the Sunnah, as is done by Asma Barlas and Kecia Ali, shows us that the interpretation of Islam today, and the decisions made based on them, is constricted to very few people, from very limited backgrounds. Women, for one, are usually excluded although this did not use to be the case. (cf Aisyah, Fatimah, Hafsa).

I question the defense of certain fatwas on the basis that they are decided upon by highly religious and scholarly men, and then not explaining why the decision has been made that way. What happened to Ijtihad and Ijma? Why are fatwas being decreed without any evidence of critical reasoning and consensus?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue of debate and protest over the fatwa isn&#8217;t about non-muslims fearing that we can&#8217;t do what we want to do. It&#8217;s the issue of protecting certain sectors of society who are unfairly repressed without being understood enough. Just as much as you claim that there are reasons behind the fatwa, there are also reasons behind people&#8217;s decision to dress up in certain ways. Why should one truth be greater than the other?</p>
<p>A rereading of the Quran and the Sunnah, as is done by Asma Barlas and Kecia Ali, shows us that the interpretation of Islam today, and the decisions made based on them, is constricted to very few people, from very limited backgrounds. Women, for one, are usually excluded although this did not use to be the case. (cf Aisyah, Fatimah, Hafsa).</p>
<p>I question the defense of certain fatwas on the basis that they are decided upon by highly religious and scholarly men, and then not explaining why the decision has been made that way. What happened to Ijtihad and Ijma? Why are fatwas being decreed without any evidence of critical reasoning and consensus?</p>
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